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Sean Murphy's avatar

The need for live drill exercises exists even without the new complication of robotaxis.

Mike Smitka's avatar

Thanks. Reading "Embodied AI" now. The discussion of the SF traffic light outage is a great addition. 98% with 1000 cars is "only" 20 (partially?) blocked intersections during an emergency. At certain times of day gridlock in SF is normal, and my sense is that even 20 would be bad. But stress testing has to focus on just such time-of-day amplification of what might otherwise be a mild nuisance.

I've encountered snowstorms twice that led to people abandoning vehicles on interstates. Getting them to safety, and then digging out the vehicles afterward both stressed systems. Even finding temporary lodging was problematic, both in sheer numbers and in the challenge of actually getting them elsewhere in a blizzard. Would the existence of robotaxis matter, if basically everyone gets stuck? How long would it take to pull every robotaxis out of service during rush hour? Maybe the real issue is how to get them operating and out of the way as they get dug out. Plus making sure that people don't get locked in, even when the software "knows" they're on a limited-access road where in normal times no one should be allowed to exit a vehicle even when traffic is at a (in most cases temporary) stop.

I assume Phil and you are compiling a list of such scenarios, or know people who are. Please return to the issue!

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